I forgot the recent post DC made. Revan—renowned as the Revanchist, dreaded as the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Revan, and hailed as the Prodigal Knight—was a human male who played pivotal roles as both Jedi and Sith across centuries of Old Republic conflicts, including the Mandalorian Wars, Jedi Civil War, Great Galactic War, and Revanite Crisis.. The manner of your response is the reason I dubbed it a "waist of my time". I don't think comments like these are necessary. That said, this thread itself is an absolute mismatch that should be flagged. share. KMC Forums > Star Wars > Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe > Star Wars Versus Forum > Darth Maul and Savage Opress vs Revan and Darth Malak. If a user chooses to cede to me for any reason, be it good or bad, then that is simply their choice. Otherwise he dies in 5-10 mins.He strikes one of them and began to overwhelm him.Then second one charge him and together they start push him back.They wouldnt instakill him but ehm... you know. Do you even know that he can rip the force from him? Savage Opress was the apprentice. Dec 20, 2020 #51 Which also explains why Obiwan was even able to fight Anakin. on Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:13 pm. The manner of your response is the reason I dubbed it a "waist of my time". ", Darth Maul was awesome. Gonna crash the site with all this editing. I want Marr to get his own comic series Edit: and for him to kick Revans ass hewhewhew. KingKopecz. They find Darth Revan at his Peak and pissed off. I'd be down for that. So, without further ado we present: Darth Vader vs. Darth Revan. Helezhelm, Jun 10, 2016 #53. ". No prep fight takes on kamis look out tower no bfr all blood lusted to the death or knock out What rank or how many dark jedi Revan fought at the Star Forge is unkown, let's not jump into the conclusion that they were masters. Revan. 5) Okay, I'll give you a CAV, and we'll let the Vine decide if I'm "self centered" or not. You see why I told you in a thread before I'm done with Star Wars related threads. He first appeared in Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace, where he was ordered by his master to capture Queen Amidala of Naboo in order for her to sign a treaty that would legalize the Trade Federation's invasion of the planet. During and long after Order 66, Vader fought with Imperial forces to systematically destroy the Jedi Order. Okay, I'm willing to take on either one of you in a Revan VS thread (be it a CaV or right here in this thread). @shootingnova is actually incredibly fair and unbiased in regards to Revan. Community. I feel as if we are sleeping on Revan here. In the end, they didn't, and Maul was killed. Once the former Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker, Darth Vader allied with the Sith Lord Darth Sidious during the rise of his Empire. 4. He could have used a gun the whole game and beat Malak with mines. Vader definitely could. Don't forget to subscribe, like and comment on what you thought of my video, thank you very much. WhiteLantern#1. I feel as if we are sleeping on Revan here. She clearly states that she would aid the Republic. @106me: I'm not being condescending at all. It's really as simple as that. @slacker the hacker: That's a misconception. Revan. Darth Revan. Maul is nothing and Darth Vader is a crippled shell of his former self. In the Star Wars Universe, only a few characters as skilled in battle as Maybe my post was slightly over the top. I already know that Team 2 will win.). Not even a Jedi Master could deflect that many blaster bolts at once, but Windu slowly turned to make eye contact with each one, placed one hand on the lightsaber hanging at his hip, and spoke only three words: 'It's your decision.' Re: Darth Revan vs Darth Maul. We don't have enough information. Darth Revan-Core. But if that falls through hit me up. Revan was once one of my favorite characters and at least holds a favorable position now, even if he isn't within my favorites. @106me: Maybe we should limit ourselves to 1 CAV each :p, I guess you could go with DC and settle this Revan thing once and for all, and me n shooting can do our thing. Boomstick: He's wiz and I'm Boomstick. Vader. 18 comments. If you want Revan, I'll take Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan, Count Dooku etc. 11 comments . Whether you like it or not, however, I will post scans sometime this week for Revan on this thread. Revan wins. This thread is archived. But whatever - I'm not here to change your opinion here at all. Re: Revan vs Darth Maul on December 20th 2019, 12:50 am By your own admission Nihilus is sub-Sadow, who’s arguably comparable to the likes of the Exiles, who I’ve repeatedly underlined are absolute fodder to Malak via his SF scaling. Whether a user cedes to me is up to them, not to me. Government Official. Vader doesn’t but competed with a clone of TPM Maul. Malak was the strongest in a Sith Order of at least 3,333 people. (P.S. Vader led the purge of the Jedi Order and acted … And his skills as a warrior were nonpareil. He would've been Dark Council Darth 'level' easily. I'm not talking about Revan. Darth Maul. Your condescendence on this forum irritates me. He was a dominant figure in the Mandalorian Wars, and due to his intellect and tactical skills, he won the war. Potente, ma la versatilità è la sua più grande forza nella forza. Darth Revan is Female. KMC Forums > Star Wars > Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe > Star Wars Versus Forum > Darth Maul vs Darth Revan Edit: Sidious, TPM Maul and Vader all have statements over the opposing team. One on one? He was only so dangerous because of the time-period, and thus galactic circumstances, he was mired in. [mention]Tondemonai[/mention] wrote:Revan ragdolls. Anyway, Darth Maul gets mauled by Darth Revan, as he's too powerful for him to handle. If you do not like Revan, then fine, but there is no need to take that out on immature users in the forum. Mando War Revan would be a much closer fight, albeit being solidly in Revan\u0019s favor. What a load of rubbish. :P. @jaken7: I appreciate the fact that at least somebody saw me as better than a PT wanker and a Revan hater. TCW Maul should beat Darth Revan, yeah. Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. Yeah, but Revan being weaker than Yoda has nothing to do with Maul getting owned. QuakeBlood. In fact, that's not even my point. "The story goes that Mace Windu was once ambushed by fourteen Gank-killers, who surrounded him with weapons drawn. Darth Revan's empire. I'm still waiting on a couple of things to arrive in the post, and then once I read them, I'll be completely up to date on Maul and ready to debate with him to his fullest. While Maul should hold DARTH REVAN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Maul badly, Revan>Malak>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Maul. Darth Maul and Savage Opress vs Revan and Darth Malak. Helezhelm, Jun 10, 2016 #53. Marco1907 (TCW - Darth Maul) Saber, force all out. Also, LMMFAO - I could couldn't care less how you feel about me son. For those of you who believe feats alone win the day, what feats does pre-game Revan actually have to his name? Nobody has hated on him, especially since I have commented on how he could challenge a variety of PT and OT characters in varying aspects. share. But he's probably better with the Force than they are. Wanna do it sometime in the future? I did not mean it to be insulting, but if you took it as disrespectful, then I can only offer you my apologies. If Vader and Maul teamed up, then yes, I can see them winning the vast majority. In many ways Darth Maul was an exemplary acolyte. What happens when he faces the brute force that is Malak, also known as the Sith Magnus? Revan curbstomps Maul. @106me: @dccomicsrule2011: Let's stop dragging the thread off the rails with ethic talk. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Serious. And perhaps you do have a point. TPM Maul could probably solo, actually. I'm talking about IKC. I may choose to do a CaV with you, if you want. @106me: Hmm.. the prospect of a Maul vs Revan CAV interests me. You keep on cherry picking scenes in the fight, and ignoring the other ones. Boomstick: Such as Darth Maul, the coolest looking Star Wars character (well, maybe besides Vader) and fan favorite. no i'm sorry but he argues more than you could dream of, "Argumentum ad populum = Logical Fallacy". Revan fue un antiguo Lord Sith, quien era el homónimo de la «Legión Revan», la 3.ª Legión de los soldados Sith del Sith Eterno de Darth Sidious. Casual. What?! ... Darth Revan ile Feyizli Paylaşımlar. However, Vader was critically wounded in a lightsaber duel with Obi-Wan Kenobi which forced him to live out the remainder of his life in a cybernetic suit. Darth Maul è stato un Signore Oscuro dei Sith nato su Iridonia ma cresciuto su Dathomir da una Sorella della Notte umana e uno Zabrak ignoto, morto come schiavo delle altre Sorelle (il che vuol dire che è un mezzosangue). Movie. Not a chance (for Maul of course) and a solid "no" for Vader. Round 1: only sabers. Jedi Matt likes this. With prep, he'd definitely win. The assassin vs the butcher, speed versus strength. darth vader alone wins with medium diffuculty. Round 2. There's no need to accuse others of affecting newer users or anything of that sort - especially if they lack the civility and sportsmanship to respect others and debate/win/concede without a hint of mocking arrogance in their tone. Get e-mail updates for my channel! I'd presumably be using Maul, probably TPM. Round 3: Revan isn't alone. I hated the gay way they killed such an awesome character. Darth Maul is best Sith. For those of you who believe feats alone win the day, what feats does pre-game Revan actually have to his name? btw @shootingnova I say you just just own the guy so it can be done with. His friends could have shot the lightsaber out of Bandons hands and then Zaalbar hops on him and starts monkey-punching him in the face. carthage. What the hell? Who the hell voted Maul? We know he can withstad force lightning, we know he beat up some mercs that were considered "some of the most deadly" people in the galaxy, with minimal effort. Maul has shown us more impressive combat prowess, so until something is proven about Revan, I'm going with Maul simply because I don't have another choice. @dccomicsrule2011: I have no particular preference on doing a CaV with you or not, but @ShootingNova: and I have already agreed to a CaV. finally, someone put him in his rightful chair... That's what I was going to say. Round 1: Revan's force is reduced due to being in the Marvel Universe. Given the prominence of the films and television shows versus the novels and comic books, it is no surprise that the two most recognizable members of the Sith Order are Without, he'd still win. Something canon is all I ask for. Revan is the most overrated character in SW history itself, beyond Galen Marek. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. DC rejected his offer - I was the one who considered accepting. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Still: @dccomicsrule2011: @shootingnova: Okay, I'm willing to take on either one of you in a Revan VS thread (be it a CaV or right here in this thread). Let me know in the comments below! Can you think of anyone who could be a good match? Darth Revan vs Darth Maul. ... DARTH MAUL - Star Wars : The Phantom Menace - Lightsaber Fight - … 4. Dec 20, 2020 #51 Which also explains why Obiwan was even able to fight Anakin. Gideon. Being in three seperate CaV's with you, ShootingNova, and dccomicsrule2022 at the same time would destroy all of the intelligence that I possess. Both of them together is far too much. Darth Revan-core. TTervel. In the Star Wars Universe, only a few characters as skilled in battle as Darth Maul.In canon, only a few characters such as Darth Sidious, Ashoka Tano, and particularly his original “killer,” Obi-Wan Kenobi, have even managed to defeat the Son of Dathomir in single combat.. Savage Opress was the apprentice. @shootingnova: It's alright. Serious. Straight duel, no force powers. It not used as an insult by me....XD. Also, me, pushing new users around? During and long after Order 66, Vader fought with Imperial forces to systematically destroy the Jedi Order. I disagree. Darth Maul vs Darth Revan Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. If Vader and Maul teamed up, then yes, I can see them winning the vast majority. DarthAnt66. Originariamente era noto semplicemente come Maul ma quando Darth … Revan vs Darth Maul STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > STAR WARS Discussion Revan vs Darth Maul Reply. Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. 1) Well I'm sorry you feel that way, but truth be told, I don't think I am condescending on these boards at all. Maybe, if you had been more respectful, I would have considered taking you up on the challenge. Whether he's the better duelist of the two, we have no proof. Community. Re: Revan vs Darth Maul on December 19th 2019, 11:22 pm Malak is not far more powerful than Exar Kun, that quote is a limited-perspective description from an article subject to gameplay stats. I don't think Revan can beat Team 2, but he sure as hell isn't losing to Maul, and I don't see Vader taking the majority. Revan was an extremely powerful Sith Lord and Jedi Knight. The hate both of you give Revan is getting kinda old, and I only ever see you wanking the Trilogy characters. Drive-In Movie Theater. KMC Forums > Star Wars > Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe > Star Wars Versus Forum > Darth Maul vs. Revan. ...you have a point with @dccomicsrule2011though. Me liking, or disliking a character hass nothing to do with the way I judge a battle between two characters; never has, never will. [mention]Tondemonai[/mention] wrote:Revan ragdolls. Revan. WWE 2K16 Darth Vader vs. Darth Maul vs. Darth Revan vs. Stormtrooper Tell me what match you would like to see next I think Revan would defeat both Vader and Maul if the fights were one-on-one battles in sequence. " My post may have possibly been slightly overbearing. Count Dooku and Revan (SOR) vs. Darth Caedus and Darth Maul. Gideon, Jun 10, 2016 #54. If Revan would get 1 year of preparation with yoda as teacher and got some skill with Jar Kai combined with other styles I think it would interesting 2v1 fight.HE wouldnt win yeah but he would but longer medium fight and maybe even hurt one from them. There are also a bunch of references and quotes directed towards him. Vader won against Maul now i don't know anything about Darth Revan though. You keep on cherry picking scenes in the fight, and ignoring the other ones. Nephthys. Maybe Malak was beating him in a saber fight, and Revan bonked him in the back of the head with a small piece of debris and Malak dropped his saber. Darth Bane modeled all of his philosophy and teachings after that of Revan. Count Dooku and Revan (SOR) vs. Darth Caedus and Darth Maul. This is the battles forum - and it was made for debating. Why is everyone calling me IKC? If I say I'm LMMFAO, I really am. But calling me a "wanker" and a "hater" is far from respectful. All abilities are halved and precision strikes (like exploding organs) are unobtainable. Revan, in contrast, was very powerful and most certainly not an average Force user, during his tenures as both a Jedi Knight and a Sith Lord. Archived. Who would vanquish the other? Nute Gunray, Viceroy of the Trade Federation and a key Sidious collaborator, was branded a criminal. Revan vs Anakin would be a much better, and most likely more even fight. I am trying to say that I dislike the tone you use not only with me, but with others as well. 1 Introduction 2 Darth Maul 3 Kylo Ren 4 Intermission 5 DEATH BATTLE! Wiz: And it's our job to analyze their weapons, armor & skills to see who'd win a death battle. @106me: You, like a variety of newer posters on the board, have complained to me about how much I have affected newer users and "pushed them around". Darth Bane. EDIT: Never mind. Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. I am still willing to do a CaV, but to be fair, it'll have to wait. Who shall be the victor? Kavar is easily comparable to RotS Kenobi or RotS Mace. As Darth Maul was definitely above him, and he was the master. Always Revan. What do we know about Darth Vader? But he's probably better with the Force than they are. " Darth Maul, Savage Opress, Pre Vizsla, Bo-Katan vs Revan. KingKopecz. Whether he's the better duelist of the two, we have no proof. Exaggerating his powers based on N-canon gameplay mechanics has to stop, and so does calling on other people because an overrated character is being "undersold" by us. Your Ad Hominem is not appreciated at all, and honestly it will never lead to any worth while debating. Revan- renowned as the Revanchist, honored as the Revan, reviled as Revan the Butcher, dreaded as the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Revan, and praised as the Prodigal Knight - was a Human male who played pivotal roles as both Jedi and Sith in the Mandalorian Wars and the Jedi Civil War. --Star Wars: Shatterpoint. At that point in time, Darth Maul was under Darth Sidious's apprenticeship. Revan vs Anakin would be a much better, and most likely more even fight. Gideon, Jun 10, 2016 #54. 6 Conclusion Wiz: Star Wars is a very popular series of movies and has lots of great heroes...and Villians. Darth Maul (Maul) was a male Dathomirian Zabrak Sith Lord who served as the first apprentice of Darth Sidious. Gideon. Random encounter in Dooku's hangar on geonosis . Like Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine, Count Dooku, Boba Fett and many, many more. Maybe, but I'm known for speaking my mind on these boards, I simply call a spade a spade. This is a rather hard question to answer, for several reasons. Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe. 3) Was it unessecery? Mando War Revan would be a much closer fight, albeit being solidly in Revan\u0019s favor. Maul with difficulty. When it comes to the Star Wars universe, there are few threats more terrifying than the villainous Sith. And how can we know Revan wasn't effected as well? He was in charge of the Jedi Guardians, the duelists of the Order. Revan. NewGuy01. Darth Vader and Darth Maul will reportedly cross paths in Obi-Wan as they hunt for the title hero, and will even end up fighting. 94% Upvoted. Come on now dude, that's not what I do at all. Vader. If IKC Was back, we'd have that stupid unsupported assumptions for dummied on every page of every thread again. Round 2: only force. 2) ...what? Re: Revan vs Darth Maul on January 12th 2020, 2:31 pm IG (Exists) wrote: 37 BBY Sidious had barely tapped into their reserves, and I do believe they could’ve collapsed the barracks. The Legacy of Darth Revan, Jedi vs. Sith Who is More Powerful - Duration: 7:28. Możecie głosować codziennie! Fictional Character. Malak is as seen in KOTOR, while Darth Maul is as seen in the Son of Dathomir comic. Everyone in his prime . 9 years ago. Re: Revan vs Darth Maul on December 20th 2019, 12:50 am By your own admission Nihilus is sub-Sadow, who’s arguably comparable to the likes of the Exiles, who I’ve repeatedly underlined are absolute fodder to Malak via his SF scaling. So Revan beat Malak, that makes him incredible? The "manner of my response" was triggered because of your attitude towards others on this forum. 4)... -_- "Son", is a slang term I use from time to time, which means the same thing as "homie" basically. TCW Maul should beat Darth Revan, yeah. I suppose Revan could beat Maul, but not Vader. WildBantha88. Once the former Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker, Darth Vader allied with the Sith Lord Darth Sidious during the rise of his Empire. With prep, he'd definitely win. She had just turned back from the light and knew how much the Republic needed her help and how important for the galaxy it was for the Republic to destroy the SF, so it's logical to assume that she would have used all of her power to help the Republic. Sidious sent Maul to make sure that the Trade Federation succeeded in their mission on Naboo. Revan rips the force form him, and then blasts him with the true light. 7 Anomander Rake Blaze of Glory. Suspect Insight Forums :: Star Wars Versus. That is a complete misconception. Definitely not with Revan, though. I can appreciate you rooting for me, but it doesn't have to be at the expense of disrespecting others. And considering how much you seem eager to be debating others (and I know this will be a waste of time), if you seriously want a CaV with Revan against a PT era character, then so be it. Discuss. Revan is generally considered to be above Yoda and Sidious. He does, that should go without saying...hell, logically even, Maul is wrecked. However, my answer still stands that Revan can beat Vader or Maul in a one on one battle, and I will not stand by and watch some of the younger and less mature users have to be pushed around by your knowledge of the SW Universe. Link do plebiscytu (Proszę Was o 3 sekundy uwagi. His loyalty was unquestionable and unshakable; Sidious knew that, if he were to command it, Maul would sacrifice his life without a second’s hesitation. Malak is another unknown. Maul is nothing and Darth Vader is a crippled shell of his former self. Round 1. Close. The hate both of you give Revan is getting kinda old, and I only ever see you wanking the Trilogy characters. Darth Maul lml. Their evil acts were many: Maul destroyed Qui-Gon Jinn and later defeated Pre Vizsla to capture the fabled Darksaber. One on one? Revan faught through many dark jedi and sith to get to malak, who he beat WHEN MALAK WAS USING THE POWER OF THE STAR FORGE TO MAKE HIMSELF STRONGER. Maul was kinda like an average Sith Lord in the Resurgent Sith Empire. Sidious and Maul also have statements over Plagueis and thus all past Sith. Risposta 1: ... è più che altro un utente di livello Darth Maul. etc. It's only Ad Hominem when I am trying to prove your wrong by pointing out a personal characteristic of yours. Round 3: all out. 7 Anomander Rake Blaze of Glory. Trocity. If you don't want to do a CaV, that's fine. Revan beats him. Revan is powerful, but Maul and Vader at once would be too much for him. In terms of the EU, he features in games, novels, comics and a cartoon. Edit-frenzy. on Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:13 pm. Revan vs Darth Maul. Posted by 3 years ago. @slacker the hacker: That's a misconception. CZYTAJ OPIS! Even better than Darth Vader. But some of the more "Newer" ones are very popular as well. Revan WTFpwns maul. Revan also wooped Bandons ass, and Bandon was chosen out of many dark jedi and sith to become Malaks apprentice, proving he had to be powerful. I think it'd be a solid fight though, and I could see Revan winning. Darth Maul is often regarded as one of the quickest and most aggressive duelists in Star Wars. Darth Maul vs. Revan. It also looked like this. "Also, LMMFAO LMFAO - I could couldn't care less how you feel about me...". Vs.Rules:- In character- No prep- Fight takes place on Kashyyyk. News & Media Website. With Darth Maul there, and in spite of the sheer molestation he's received in the EU *coughtheclonewarscough*, I believe Revan would simply be overwhelmed. Servants of the dark side, both Darth Maul and Darth Vader became deadly and powerful Sith. Darth Revan vs Darth Malgus. The blockade fell. KMC Forums > Star Wars > Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe > Star Wars Versus Forum > Darth Marr vs Darth Maul. Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. I don't think Revan can beat Team 2, but he sure as hell isn't losing to Maul, and I don't see Vader taking the majority. One by one, the Ganks lay their weapons on the ground." While Maul should hold Anyway, Darth Maul gets mauled by Darth Revan, as he's too powerful for him to handle. Without, he'd still win. Yes, but everyone he encountered was either avoidable or an unknown, and we don't know how he beat any of them. save hide report. @dccomicsrule2011: Obviously. save. Darth Marr vs Darth Maul. I think it'd be a solid fight though, and I could see Revan winning. As Darth Maul was definitely above him, and he was the master. @whirlwind_33 You didn't have to delete your post, just edit that part out so as not to be disrespectful. @i_like_swords: I am also willing to do a CaV if you still want, like @dccomicsrule2022: , but you'll also have to wait. I'm relatively mellow, unless something really displeases me, or if my mood was already affected to an extreme degree. Calling us wankers on the account of expressing canonical feats is ridiculous. Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Maul (TCW Season 7) on December 29th 2020, 12:35 am Season 7 Maul displayed the most impressive force feat in his arsenal (in my opinion anyway). Honestly I don't see where all this stuff is coming from at all. No doubt he'd excel in that category. Re: Darth Revan vs Darth Maul. I am not forcing you into an argument, and if you have felt disrespected, I've already offered my apologies. Re: Revan vs Darth Maul on December 19th 2019, 11:22 pm Malak is not far more powerful than Exar Kun, that quote is a limited-perspective … Maul: Double bladed lightsaber, full force power useage Revan: Single bladed lightsaber, full force power usage. Edit: NVM, just noticed DC already said he'd give you one. @jackofalltrades2: Way to back up your claims, mang. I've seen your posts on other threads, and you seem to have high opinions of yourself when in debates with other users. We know Maul beat Qui Gon, and pushed an enraged Kenobi down a pit. Revan is a video game character....He can be as strong as you make him be, so its impossible to say how strong he is. I'm just a maul fanboy, so my posts can be ignored in any maul thread. Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Maul (TCW Season 7) on December 29th 2020, 12:35 am Season 7 Maul displayed the most impressive force feat in his arsenal (in my opinion anyway). It also looked like this. Wiz: And Ben Solo, otherwise known as Kylo Ren, the son of Han Solo and Princess Leia. The Stupendous Wave 419,559 views. I'd honestly say Vader could potentially take him alone, if he fought smart enough. And if people think Revan was better than Yoda, that's their problem. Not a chance (for Maul of course) and a solid "no" for Vader. Round 2: Force is at full potential. There's no reason to believe that she did. We can assume Revan is good, sure, but better than Yoda is pure speculation, and being able to defeat Maul, there is simply no proof. Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.
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